PHI 2323 Lecture 7

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Phaedo Continued

Eternity of the Soul 2

  • We know "the Equal" through recollection
    • nothing in the world is perfectly equal
  • We must have existed before birth in order to know this
  • Equal is immaterial and not dependent on body
  • Therefore, we are likely to live after death

Simmias' Objection

  • Soul is the "harmony of the body" as music is to a lyre
    • Harmony depends on the producing instrument for its existence
    • Soul depends on body for existence
    • Once body dies, then soul ceases to exist
  • (materialist view)
How would the philosophers have argued about flatworms, starfish, or grafted plants who can grow into entirely new organisms from a cutting?

Cebes' Objection

  • Soul : Body :: Man : Cloak
  • soul "wears out" many bodies
  • perhaps you're in your last body, Socrates!

Socrates' Reaction

  • He rejoices at the objections
    • We seek truth regardless of what it is!

Misology and Misanthropy

  • misology is skepticism of argumentation in general
  • similar to misanthropy
    • There are three types of people:
      1. People you can trust always
      2. People you can sometimes trust
      3. People you can never trust
    • Misanthropists have encountered too many people in the last category and therefore trust no one
  • There are three types of arguments:
    1. Demonstration (mathematical proofs)
    2. Probable arguments (most arguments fall here)
    3. Sophistry and Fallacies (used most often by politicians)
  • Someone who has encountered many bad arguments or false arguments might lose trust in argumentation

Reply to Simmias

  • The soul exists prior to the body
    • Can a harmony exist prior to the instrument?

To be continued... [out of time]